@adachi @mischievoustomato @munir @Suiseiseki @waifu @dj We are in a "Death of the Author" situation. It might not matter what RMS thinks or promotes when _some_ of his most devout supporters misinterpret his ideas and preach something RMS didn't intent to/say.

One of such people is in this thread and started the whole discussion about this topic mostly unprompted. I've had multiple discussions with Suiseiseki exactly about promoting free software as much as possible, while also being pragmatic about it when simply no functioning/usable options exist and there's zero chance of changing him. He lives in his own bubble, unable to understand that a world where free software can't replace everything for everyone exists. Barely understanding what BIOS, microcode and system bootstrap are, while saying that updating proprietary microcode makes Libreboot proprietary, because they dared to update already broken software that is _already_ burned into the CPU die. In this case GNUBoot is actually counterproductive to spreading freedom, just like the flawed policy it follows. While Libreboot is better for user's freedom than normal BIOS, he won't acknowledge it because it breaks FSF's own policies. And if you get him into a corner that he can't "escape" with free software, he'll just play the skill issue card and be done with it.

I actually fully agree with RMS here in this case, even though some of his ideas and FSF policies are deeply flawed.

Anyway, to reference the copypasta, the pragmatic type of free software promoter you are referring to is a FOSSoid :D Don't take it seriously though, it was just written as a bait while I was on a long train ride and had nothing to do.

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