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    CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 00:50:08 JSTCEO of Monoeye DatingCEO of Monoeye Dating
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    • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
    @jeffcliff >it should have been a signal out of the attempts to replicate wakefield and it wasn't.

    It could have just got missed; I guess we can't know. Negative results don't get published very often, and we're interested in reading about a negative result. It's frustrating both from the perspective of researchers and an interested public.

    >It screams 'attempting to salvage a known false hypothesis'

    I agree. I'm asking if we can preemptively build a solid case against this thing I've said, because I'm going to bring the "PTSD is misdiagnosed as autism" thing up to people I know - some of whom totally buy the "vaccines cause autism" bit.

    I think it's an obvious line of thought from that perspective. I'd like to sort of prepare to shoot it down, but I just kinda haven't figured out how to.

    >The general "bad parenting causes autism" however has been looked at...It doesn't seem to wash at all

    There's two points off about this.

    First, it's off-center for what's being discussed: the claim isn't "bad parenting/trauma/etc. causes autism," it's "bad parenting/trauma/etc. causes ptsd which gets misdiagnosed as autism."

    Second, if this research was only conducted before Wakefield, then it should be revisited: our notions of what constitutes "bad parenting" has expanded greatly, and it includes practices such as "spanking your kids unconscious."

    One might reasonably ask whether or not spanking causes autism - I'm not sure if Boomers/Gen X simply spanked more brutally than past generations. However, I'd like to shelve that thought and focus on the PTSD/autism misdiagnosis link, and whether or not hitting kids with needles is potentially causing an upsurge in autism diagnoses as a result.
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