@J @NonPlayableClown @colonelj The food is nice (when you can get them to stop dumping sugar into everything), but a decent person is about as rare as decent weather down there.

:wtsherman: "The North can make a steam engine, locomotive or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or a pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical and determined people on earth - right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with."

:pinkwojak: WE COULD HAVE WON IF LINCOLN HAD STUCK TO THE RULES THAT WE DIDN'T FOLLOW

Why you'd prefer to be subjugated by effete, degenerate apes mimicking a French aristocracy rather than by the effete degenerates in D.C. is something I don't feel the need to understand, but if you start shooting, your objections no longer matter. If someone tells you something you don't like and you punch him, you've given up on talking. If you go on to lose the fight and then try to convince him that he shouldn't have said what he said, you're grasping at straws. You don't start a fight and then plead for reason to prevail once you've lost, at least not if you have any self-respect.

Once there is shooting, there is a war, and if you have started a war, you have ceded the decision about what should be done to soldiers. Who should have said or done what is no longer a question that matters, and the right has been waived by the person that decided it was time to stop talking and start shooting.

It's pathetic to try to re-litigate a war that has been won a hundred and sixty years ago, and it's hypocritical to complain about due process if you're simping for the side that started shooting instead of trying to make some kind of amicable split. "If we can't take slaves to Oregon, we're going to fucking shoot you!"

Having spent some years in the south, I can say that the only thing Sherman did wrong was that he stopped.