@dansup there's a certain "guilt-by-association" and "don't sit at the table" aspect to it though? like, you can work with them on interop, or you can treat them as a hostile actor. there's other options in between but those are the main two. and so the choice to work with them in any capacity can be seen in a political light. you're not responsible for or condoning their actions, but you *are* at minimum overlooking them.