@lanodan Yeah, I was complaining about this a few weeks ago and I forget who it was (I think laurel) that said it's because of the data science guys. I think, although I do not like his language and I hear from someone that met him that he is an off-putting person, Guido was keeping things stable and when he wandered off, the movefastbreakthings kids took over, or at least the phenomenon of Python being a disaster seems to have started after his exit. (Ironically, Ruby programs I wrote 20 years ago still run as long as they keep to the stdlib; I don't think anyone would have figured Ruby for the stable project run by adults when compared to Python, but I think that's the fault of the Rails dinguses. Even I expected Python to be more boring and stable.)