@BroDrillard @KarlDahl @sickburnbro The problem is coding is essentially clerical work now. Yes, it does take some skill and time to learn it to do it well, but I've done stocking in warehouses, service sector work that required responsibility, and manual farm work that required you to also think and plan ahead. All low pay. And writing code and even designing an app is really not that much more complicated. It's not for everybody, but just because you can code does not make you a secret genius by any stretch. It's definitely not six figures.

So when I see people complaining on cs and coding subreddits about the state of the industry and how little companies are offering in pay today I have zero sympathy. They want high pay for what is essentially medium to low skill labour.

Now come up with something that is truly original. Show an ability to truly problem solve and not just "try things out in code," then I am all ears. Just show some originality and independence. But we have the same number of people in absolute terms who can do that that we had 40 years ago. They've just become swamped by all the new low skill guys who want to be treated like the genuine talent is.