@SuperDicq


> I thought that was a debate in good faith, I think the objections from the Debian on the GNU FDL are valid concerns.

The problem is it makes them look hypocritical given the proprietary software exception they made on 12 that goes against their own guidelines.


> I don't give a shit, I don't understand the systemd hate bandwagon.

The hate is justified for two reasons:

1. The decision was carried out without consideration that some people would not want to be stuck on a single init without being able to choose another one, something that is trivial to do, proven by Devuan.


2. soystemd is just an abysmally dogshit piece of software, massive, complex and poorly understood by everyone, plagued with CVEs every single year, and with a despicable dev lead that is very obviously OSI psyopped.


> Debian did NOT join this bandwagon.

Debian as a project didn't, but a large majority of the lead dev members did push for this debate (with Molly herself, deeply involved with both Debian and GNOME, as one of the original authors) in the hopes it did after they signed individually only to boost the signature numbers and falsely make it look like more people and groups are against him. You can go and check the open letter, Ctrl + F "Debian", and you'll see there's several names that glow. And that's not counting the ones that did sign without stating from what group are they part of, doing some digging reveals even more.



> I mean I like that Devuan decided to not follow Debian's example on the firmware issue

> He doesn't know Devuan decided to ship with nonfree software even before Debian did.


> I have been thinking about PureOS.

Don't, it's dead in the dirt, go for Trisquel instead of that, if anything, it has minimal installers and it can be used just fine for servers (the FSF hosts all their stuff on Trisquel), It still uses apt as the main package manager and it's free. Or you can try your luck with this: https://gnuinos.org/