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That's not so much a "liberal" vs. "conservative" rivalry thing; that's more of the compromise that liberals made with the more "enlightened" conservatives to overcome right-wing opposition to even a highly restricted and punitive welfare state. It was the attempts by more committed liberals of the 1970's to expand "welfare" to make it less punitive and regressive that brought on the backlash of the Right in the 1980's and the retrenchment...