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@NaClKnight@mstdn.games yeah you're right on the first point. I gave up PVP on Armored Core (and Gundam BO2 but that's another story) a mech game where I REALLY enjoyed the pvp gameplay because the balance and netcode were D O G S H I T. Seriously I cannot put into words how bad (the literal only worse game at that was GBO2, which is why I mentioned it)

sigh

anyway, I liked PVP in Dark Souls, because it was a quick, fun and immediate way to try out and experience new wildly different builds to what I usually used in PVE. But eventually not even that could keep me playing, and ER/AC6 was so bad I gave up on FromSoft games pvp forever. Still love their games tho, just in PVE now.