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@glyph @whitequark well what i fear is there might have been a point when i was trying to figure out how pipx worked that i just tried every thing i could think of and one of them might have resulted in something Weird

what's mostly weird to me is the LAST time python updated and blew away my pipxes, i just said "pipx install --force pdm" and THAT fixed it. so that's weird in a way "i fucked my system and it worked in a configuration it shouldn't have" isn't. the fucked->unfucked->fucked cycle