@PopulistRight @brokeassredneck yeah, this is the part that people don't want to talk about, because it lays bare the whole "green" movement. To a large degree, standard of living and energy consumption are tied.

What is worse that I try to explain to people is that you can't even easily cut back on certain things to "help the planet" as an example: thinking "making all passenger cars into battery cars will help" - well, the problem is that the petrochemcial production chain produces a lot of stuff we use everywhere and per gallon of crude, there are only so many things you can economically produce. ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracking_(chemistry) ) If you want everything industrial to still run on diesel ( and you do ) - it's not a simple thing to say "ok what are we going to do with all this gasoline?" You can't just change it all into diesel or Jet A.