@RehnSturm256 @MeBigbrain @BowsacNoodle @Jewpacabra @Remi @SuperSnekFriend @nugger Well its sad but the ways things are we have to wait for the collapse and weather out the bad times. It be a thousands of times better if we were more organized in this but the best thing to do is try to sit things out as best we can and turn our backs on the larger society.