Zion Don being a disappointment aside, one of the most memorable interactions I had with white collar urbanite upper crust types was when I ended up in a conversation with a couple trust fund kids at a bar downtown after a few drinks in the immediate wake of the 2016 election. The specifics of the conversation escape me, but the one thing I never forgot were the looks of total alien perplexity they gave me as I tried to explain how the average Trump voter hates their guts and the way they talk down to people who they claim "vote against their own interests". I'd never had anybody look at me like I had two heads like that, and never have since. Mind you I too was an urbanite bugman working in the city at a startup at the time and I had voted Libertardian out of protest, but I was able to understand the mindset that drove the 2016 Trump frenzy and empathize with it while they were completely incapable of doing so. It was like trying to get Tyrone to understand how he would've felt if he hadn't eaten breakfast yesterday. Probably one of the most redpilling interactions I have ever had in my life, it very well may have been the initial toppled domino that lead to what my ideology is today.