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@Shadowman311 @jeffcliff @ChristiJunior yeah, it's real interesting

a lot of people cite the Kyoto Protocol with its ostensible big success in "fixing the ozone hole problem" (which it hasn't) as evidence that Big Global Treaties Can Work

and then we discover, through orbital MASINT platforms, that there is a giant plume of CFCs rising up continuously from - guess where? - yes that's right FUCKING CHINA, which is a signatory to that treaty and yet says "ror fuck you roundeye we make CFC it good refrigerant", and that they are the source of something like 80% of CFC pollution

so, just to recap: you, White Man, do not get to give your kids effective asthma inhalers (you get to use the weak-sauce "green" shit for that)

you, White Man, do not get to have efficient air-conditioning

you get to use flammable refrigerants, more toxic inhalant gases, and jump through infinity hoops

meanwhile Ping Pong can brew 10 gallons of R-12 in a backyard still, venting half of the yield and all the waste products directly to atmosphere, and you can't do anything about it because "developing country" and racism