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@HistoPol @jik "histopol"? "history according to the western pov"? when China was doing the wars, it also wasn't the time it lifted anyone out of poverty.

By saying "they lifted 800mil out of poverty", I obviously was describing the recent history.

If you want to go far back in time, go ahead count the dead of WW1, WW2, civil war, slave trade, indigenous genocide, crusade.

Every country worth anything has long and bloody history, point is the west is still doing it today likes it's 1500.