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   Jonathan Kamens (jik@federate.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 08:08:45 JST Jonathan Kamens

   I don't know whether #JoeBiden's false implication that the #ICC warrants assert equivalency between #Israel's government and #Hamas is based on willful blindness to the facts or cynical political maneuvering.
   Either way, it is immensely disappointing.
   I guess we'll have to wait 105 years for the U.S. government to acknowledge that what's happening now is #genocide, just as we had to wait that long vis a vis the #ArmenianGenocide.
   #Gaza #GazaGenocide #politics

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     ViXY_DBC (vixy_dbc@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 08:08:42 JST ViXY_DBC

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     @jik I do not intend to claim you are lack of more knowledge, in fact I am sure you read much more than most, and are a very intelligent individual..

     With that being said, I'd suggest re-examine the socialist principles and hard facts of war and conflict in the past 80 years.

     One example: however you were told about China, it did lift 800 million people out of poverty, drives global south development, and invaded nobody in the process.

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     HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 08:08:42 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴

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     @ViXY_DBC

     Just for starters:

     "China, it did lift 800 million people out of poverty, drives global south development, and invaded nobody in the process."

     https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/from-the-archives-1950-china-invades-tibet-20201014-p56560.html

     ...and how about the up to 8 million #Chinese who were murdered by #Mao's #CulturalRevolution?

     https://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-violence-war-massacre-resistance/en/document/chronology-mass-killings-during-chinese-cultural-revolution-1966-1976.html
     @jik

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     Jonathan Kamens (jik@federate.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 08:08:43 JST Jonathan Kamens

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     @ViXY_DBC Looking around at what's going on in the rest of the world I don't know that there's much chance of that either.

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     ViXY_DBC (vixy_dbc@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 08:08:44 JST ViXY_DBC

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     @jik Or just give up on the illusion of this white empire ever going to be "shining city on the hill", and work for a democratic international order for all.

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     Jonathan Kamens (jik@federate.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 08:08:53 JST Jonathan Kamens

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     @ViXY_DBC
     1) Do not come into my mentions and hold up China as an example the world should emulate. One word: Uyghurs.
     2) Also, the phrase you used above is "democratic international order." Do you think China is a democracy?
     3) I am not talking about what might theoretically happen in some dream-world, I am talking about what is possible in the real world we actually live in.

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     finche (finche@nrw.social)'s status on Friday, 28-Jun-2024 23:53:43 JST finche

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     @jik

     The case is more complicated.

     The warrants actually discussed against Netanyahu/Gallant have nothing to do with the genocide assumption put forward by some questionable entities like ZA.

     K. Khan is after war crimes: to weaponize starvation of the adversaries population and hindering the incoming of humanitarian help.

     I can't see any objections to bring this to court.

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     ViXY_DBC (vixy_dbc@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 00:32:22 JST ViXY_DBC

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     • HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴

     @HistoPol @jik "histopol"? "history according to the western pov"? when China was doing the wars, it also wasn't the time it lifted anyone out of poverty.

     By saying "they lifted 800mil out of poverty", I obviously was describing the recent history.

     If you want to go far back in time, go ahead count the dead of WW1, WW2, civil war, slave trade, indigenous genocide, crusade.

     Every country worth anything has long and bloody history, point is the west is still doing it today likes it's 1500.