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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://mas.to/users/tokyo_0/statuses/112665047917934913">Tokyo Outsider (337ppm) (tokyo_0@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jun-2024 17:43:22 JST</a><a href="https://mas.to/@tokyo_0" title="tokyo_0@mas.to"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/89924-48-20240308124607.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)</a><div><a href="https://gnusocial.jp/notice/6467632" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a><ul><li><li><a href="https://gnusocial.jp/user/200887" title="gamambel@social.tchncs.de">Moritz Bartl</a></li></ul></div></section><article><p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@gamambel">@gamambel</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@jeffowski">@jeffowski</a> Your post here <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@gamambel/112664995960377960" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://social.tchncs.de/@gamambel/112664995960377960</a> gave the impression you were referring to institutional religion where someone else decides whether or not you are part of it, which is indeed part of that dictionary definition but definitely not all of it. I think you'll find some religions are more flexible in what they expect than others. This might be where the differing views stem from.</p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/3276761#notice-6467633">In conversation</a><time datetime="2024-06-23T17:43:22+09:00" title="Sunday, 23-Jun-2024 17:43:22 JST">about a year ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://mas.to/@tokyo_0/112665047917934913" rel="external" title="Sent from mas.to via ActivityPub">mas.to</a></span></span><a href="https://mas.to/@tokyo_0/112665047917934913">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><article><header><div>No result found on File_thumbnail lookup.</div><h5><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@gamambel/112664995960377960">Moritz Bartl (@gamambel@social.tchncs.de)</a></h5><div> from <span>Moritz Bartl</span></div></header><div>@tokyo_0@mas.to @jeffowski@mastodon.world In "religion", you are either "with us", or "against us", a "non-believer". Religion, as an organized form that you can either "join" or not, is by definition authoritarian, and must be. It is that which it provides to its believers. Orientation, an authority outside of yourself.It sounds like you are operating from a broader definition, which is where this disagreement may stem from, when in fact we probably agree on which elements are "dangerous" and which ones are not.</div><footer></footer></article></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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@gamambel @jeffowski Your post here https://social.tchncs.de/@gamambel/112664995960377960 gave the impression you were referring to institutional religion where someone else decides whether or not you are part of it, which is indeed part of that dictionary definition but definitely not all of it. I think you'll find some religions are more flexible in what they expect than others. This might be where the differing views stem from.
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  @tokyo_0@mas.to @jeffowski@mastodon.world In "religion", you are either "with us", or "against us", a "non-believer". Religion, as an organized form that you can either "join" or not, is by definition authoritarian, and must be. It is that which it provides to its believers. Orientation, an authority outside of yourself. It sounds like you are operating from a broader definition, which is where this disagreement may stem from, when in fact we probably agree on which elements are "dangerous" and which ones are not.

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