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@aral There are proven effective ways to persuade people to work together to solve and address problems. You are not using them.

I'm going to bow out, though. No one likes to hear the kumbaya bullshit because no one wants to think about how they can change what they're doing themselves.

Everyone wants to start with what everyone else is doing wrong. See? I'm doing it too.

Fedi is a place to yell at other people, less so a place to collaborate.

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