@tchambers @dave @adam @james All podcasting 2.0 Apps have this first party data. We need to collaborate and share this data. But to be clear hosts do not have this data. They will thus keep pushing legacy metrics like downloads. Spotify, YouTube can share this first party data with Advertisers and Creators already today. If we don't offer an alternative open 'first party' solution then we lose to these close proprietary platforms as they fix the problem of reporting to advertisers.