@amerika @Cookieman @Looming @NEETzsche @andreas @childrapist1488 @lich @lina @markcuban @mint @unlight Thiel subdivided optimists and pessimists into "definite" and "indefinite", describing the Greatest Generation as "definite optimists" (people who imagined a bright future and saw a concrete path), the Boomers--who grew up under people that were working hard to create a better future, so nice things kept happening to the Boomers with no effort on their part--as "indefinite optimists" (people who were hopeful that things would work out, but had no idea how; *someone* will handle it, someone will science some inventions and then we won't have to worry about problems), and Gen-X--who grew up watching the Boomers exploit a functioning society, leaving things worse than they found it--as "indefinite pessimists" (people who expect the worst but do not know what will make that happen).