@mint @Forestofenchantment @eidolon @EscapeVelo blackberries were one of the first brands to shill security and is probably why Android phones chased that dragon.

if you get an old one and it's passworded, aside from doing security checks at each boot those phones were some of the first to do a wipe after several failed password attempts. But because there was FRP law yet, that wasn't a thing. The idea was protecting your data from theft before protecting the phone from theft because in the 00s Tyrone wasn't stealing your phone to pawn for Fentanyl money.