@allison @wizard i'm willing to give it a fair shake and have two diff ppl think it'll go great and offer to help. i'm not averse to writing a pkg if i need it. mostly it's that arch instability absolutely has fucked with me before, fedora always has One Thing that drives me nuts and pop uses x11 but otherwise was smooth. i'm going for kde wayland vrr on amd, i think this could be a just works thing, but i need to, idk, see