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To Schopenhauer Will is panentheist, i.e. a force of life pervading all of consciousness. There is one dream but many dreamers who also dream, etc.

Nietzsche sees identity as fate. You are -- as a slice of the Will -- destined to be a specific thing, so live fully into it.

What neither countenanced was individualism, or "me first before all else." Both were essentially traditionalists from the Plato model.