@Humpleupagus@gav I did read Zarathustra but it's been a bit, definitely the type of book that deserves a re-read. In Zarathustra it's absolutely a thought experiment that relies on the individual's assessment of their life it says everything will happen in your life exactly the same would you love or hate that, no choice involved, which I believe is a key difference. In the Will to power he talks about it again and admittedly I don't remember the exact passage but some take it as admitting a real belief, however, it seems strange to say it would be the result of will. Will to power is a drive that calls things to action, I don't see how someone could drive recurrence with their own will. He definitely saw things as recurring though, especially with his analysis of nations and politics so it wouldn't surprise me if his views evolved on that and I'm just missing a key detail.
@Humpleupagus@gav I can't speak as well on Schopenhauer but with Nietzsche the way I read eternal recurrence wasn't constant identical cycles but time being a closed, flat circle. It was originally a though experiment designed to ask if you would accept your life being the only one without any end or change. I might just be nitpicking but it's like death and rebirth happen in the same place and things simply continue, rather than a proper break in the cycle. He was sort of a determinist on things like this which is a huge distinction from Schopenhauer if I'm correct. I don't know if he ever came to properly believe it or if it remained a thought experiment though.
@gav Interesting do the Japanese themselves have traditions about the death/rebirth of a hero or god? I don't know enough about Shinto but it would be interesting to compare given the context. That's a pretty cool reference.
@lichelordgodfrey No he isn't correct at all. The beginning and end of his ideology is his opposition to White people. People with these beliefs should be mocked and humiliated so normal people or those adjacent to us don't view this as an easy path to martyrdom. It isn't remotely comparable to Babbit who, if I'm correct, was a standard conservative and not directly anti-White. Don't Martyr people who hate you.