@Ash_Kvetchum @Xenophon @xuya @Frondeur @Gab_Refugee @Xenophon @justnormalkorean I appreciate this explanation, but I'm not Calvinist and it feels like this would lead that way. Are you a predestination believer? At some point, I still ask "why does it matter" and just go with the hope and faith in Christ. It seems that's a point we agree on regardless of any deeper understandings or ignorance. I don't say that to dismiss your post either; I haven't put the time into research or reading Greek or good secondary source explanations for what you're stating.