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    Bl4ckst4r (bl4ckst4r@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Mar-2024 08:14:16 JSTBl4ckst4rBl4ckst4r
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    @jeffowski Really? The Holocaust, the systematic and industrial extermination over years, over a whole continent and beyond, is not comparable to a military (ground-)offensive in one of the most densly populated urban areas of the world, which would bring devastation and suffering and death to the civilian population living in thst area, even if the opposing combatants would not use civliian suffering as propaganda for their cause and shields to cover behind. The CIVIC (Center for Civilians In Combat https://civiliansinconflict.org/our-work/conflict-trends/urban-warfare/) estimates that in a war in an urban area 90% of the victims are civilians, that number of deaths in Gaza are lower, but obvisouly still horrific.

    And knowing this, this offensive should have never started and is based of the hybris of conservative politicians believing in military solutions to political problems (like the neocons of the US in their war on terror). But it is no comparison to the Holocaust, that is simply downplaying the horror of that history and hence antisemitic.

    And to specify. What is happening at the moment is the looming food and water crisis of the palestinians in Gaza (especially in the north of Gaza), the offcial israelian version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTDkQGc1vu4) is at the moment, that they deliver enough food into gaza through the border, but there is not enough infrastructure inside of gaza to deliver it effectivly to everyone, plus they want to deliver supplies over the sea by ship. But the people are desperate and the IDF might not had plans how to effectivly take care of the people they drove out from the northern parts of gaza as this article from Haaretz hints to: https://archive.is/ZqSmd (use Tor-Browser if the link does not work). The assesment of this article https://archive.is/VtvTx as well as this report from Channel4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gptXnDMjTDE surely show this horrific situation, but is not comparable to the Holocaust. Since there is no evidence of intend of starving the palestinians of gaza. Even if that would be the case, than the situation structurely different. There has been cases in the past were the intentional denial of food has lead to mass dying, as the holodomor for example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor), but that wouldnt work as an antisemtic rewrite of history wouldnt it?

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      The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо́р, romanized: Holodomor, IPA: [ɦolodoˈmɔr]; derived from морити голодом, moryty holodom, 'to kill by starvation'), also known as the Terror-Famine or the Great Famine, was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed...
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