@houseoftolstoy @shortstories @basedbagel and what does 10 minutes of beating your joints on a treadmill get you in reality? nothing, absolutely nothing, its not long enough for muscle gain, its not enough for heart health

you'd be better off doing clean and jerks for low weight high reps

but again if you're working from a severe deficit of several hundred pounds over weight, you gotta treat it like a drug addiction and remove the dope to even begin to get better