@boeswilligkeit @moomin @yockeypuck > told to not pursue such methods again because it, "was not trusting God's plan."
WHAT DO THOSE BRAINIACS THINK GOD DOESN'T WORK THROUGH PEOPLE
SO IF THEY DO SOMETHING GOOD, IF THEY HELP AN OLD LADY CROSS THE ROAD, DO THEY THINK THEY AREN'T PARTICIPATING IN THE WILL OF GOD BEING DONE THROUGH THEIR ACTIONS BUT INSTEAD THAT THEIR WILL HAD SOMEHOW GENERATED A NEW AND UNIQUE FORM OF GOOD, NOT OF A KIND WITH THE ACTIVITIES OF GOD?

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE RIGHT ON THIS ONE
THATS SOME SCHIZO TALK
YOU SHOULD TRY THOSE "SECULAR" METHODS AGAIN,
AND WHEN YOU FAIL YOU SHOULD GET UP AND TRY AGAIN
AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU YOU SHOULD TRY TO SOLVE IT WITH SOME OTHER MEANS
AND IF YOU'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE MEANS YOU SHOULD ASK SOMEONE YOU TRUST ON THIS ISSUE

BECAUSE YOU CONQUERING YOUR WILL FROM THE PASSIONS IS ACTUALLY WHAT GOD'S PLAN IS, AND YOUR WORKING TOWARDS THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT TRUSTING GOD'S PLAN IS