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christcucks are always claiming European technology and architecture is a result of christianity, and not a Racial thing, and yet you take one look at how christianity has "empowered" africa with its supposed results and you wonder why they are still a shithole living in dirt, even the ones shown here are built indirectly by christcuck Europeans sending them donations. If the christian religion is the important factor, why did Africa never match Europe? Every single church or cathedral in africa was built by Europeans. Europeans would have achieved and have achieved the architecture and technology we have under ANY religion. It is a Racial Genetic thing and has nothing to do with religion.
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@nugger @boeswilligkeit @moomin > once you "accept" you are free from the punishment and can "choose not to sin"
The idea that sinlessness is possible on Earth is dangerous and untrue. We are all progressively sanctified and regenerated by the Holy Spirit, and we should all not only do our best to rely on God but do our best to seek improvement, but perfect obedience to God's will, which is what sinlessness is, is not possible in this world.
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@nugger @moomin @yockeypuck Again, nothing changed. I attempted to conquer it through what my parents and church deemed secular methods, failed, and was told to not pursue such methods again because it, "was not trusting God's plan." Around this time, COVID happened, and church stopped, so I picked up guitar to continue worship via song because it was becoming the only method through which I felt even slightly spiritually alive. Nothing changed. This continued for about 3 years. The reality of the relationship that I thought was there gradually became apparent. I became severely depressed because I did not feel that I was getting any closer to the righteousness that I wanted. The second to last piece of wisdom I got was to attempt to view my sin from the perspective of grace, as if I had already been freed from it. Needless to say, this did not work, although for a little while it helped the depression.
The final piece of wisdom from my church was a referral to Romans 8:28 and Paul's letters. I was told that this sin would be a "thorn in my side" and it may never come out, but that it was there for a reason. They told me to focus on my relationship with Jesus and eventually he would take care of it. I just needed to trust him.
It was at that point that I realized christianity was not for me. I longed for righteousness, not a relationship. The church had told me that the latter would result in the former. My personal experience showed me otherwise.
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@boeswilligkeit @moomin @yockeypuck > told to not pursue such methods again because it, "was not trusting God's plan."
WHAT DO THOSE BRAINIACS THINK GOD DOESN'T WORK THROUGH PEOPLE
SO IF THEY DO SOMETHING GOOD, IF THEY HELP AN OLD LADY CROSS THE ROAD, DO THEY THINK THEY AREN'T PARTICIPATING IN THE WILL OF GOD BEING DONE THROUGH THEIR ACTIONS BUT INSTEAD THAT THEIR WILL HAD SOMEHOW GENERATED A NEW AND UNIQUE FORM OF GOOD, NOT OF A KIND WITH THE ACTIVITIES OF GOD?
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE RIGHT ON THIS ONE
THATS SOME SCHIZO TALK
YOU SHOULD TRY THOSE "SECULAR" METHODS AGAIN,
AND WHEN YOU FAIL YOU SHOULD GET UP AND TRY AGAIN
AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU YOU SHOULD TRY TO SOLVE IT WITH SOME OTHER MEANS
AND IF YOU'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE MEANS YOU SHOULD ASK SOMEONE YOU TRUST ON THIS ISSUE
BECAUSE YOU CONQUERING YOUR WILL FROM THE PASSIONS IS ACTUALLY WHAT GOD'S PLAN IS, AND YOUR WORKING TOWARDS THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT TRUSTING GOD'S PLAN IS
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@boeswilligkeit @moomin @yockeypuck I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TRADITIONS OF AMERICAN VERNACULAR CHRISTIAN SECTS SO I MAY BE INFERRING MY OWN MEANING HERE
THE EQUALITY HERE IM ASSUMING IS BETWEEN HUMAN BEINGS
IT IS NOT A DESCRIPTIVE THING WHERE ALL HUMAN BEINGS SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL THE SAME THING
RATHER IT IS THE CASE THAT MAN BEING MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD, THE HONOR OF THE WORTHY TREATMENT OF ANOTHER HUMAN IS PASSED ON TO THE PROTOTYPE, GOD
IN OTHER WORDS TO BENEFIT ANOTHER IS THROUGH THEM AN ACT OF VENERATION, AND THAT IS THE COMMON STANDARD THAT RESULTS IN THE EQUAL TREATMENT, RATHER THAN THE EQUAL ABILITY OF PEOPLE -- IT ISN'T EQUAL, HUMAN NATURE IS EXPRESSED IN DIFFERENT WAYS IN PEOPLE
THE POWER IN THE NAME OF CHRIST IS IM ASSUMING THE ABILITY TO BANISH EVIL SPIRITS
IM SORRY BUT THE INVOCATION OF THE NAME OF CHRIST IS NOT A MAGIC SPELL WHICH COMPELS GOD TO VANQUISH EVIL SPIRITS ON YOUR WHIM OR COMPELS EVIL SPIRITS TO LEAVE BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST SO SCARY
THE FIGHTING IS DONE BY GOD OR OCCASIONALLY HIS LOYAL SPIRITS
BEING INDWELT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WHAT ACTUALLY CAUSES HILLDEVILS TO FLEE, NOT YOUR OWN PERSON
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@nugger @moomin @yockeypuck I was attempting to reference Paul's writings more, but Genesis will work fine as well. I will note that my upbringing was in the PCA (Southeastern American Presbyterian, but leans heavily towards Calvinism).
On the imago dei: If not the spark of creativity (lacking in certain tribes), if not the yearning to know the universe (lacking in most non-Aryan tribes), then what is the image of God? Where does it stop? Does the Australian Aboriginal possess it? The semite?
On the power of christ: I have heard that before as well, and there is my problem with christianity. A great deal of its attractiveness to me was its claims that the holy spirit gave you the power to decide not to sin and help (through the power of the holy spirit).
Throughout my upbringing, it was explained to me that without christ, you were spiritually dead and incapable of choosing to not sin, once you "accept" you are free from the punishment and can "choose not to sin" but will still struggle to be righteous, and when he comes back, you will not need to choose to not sin because you will see the better alternative in its full glory and always choose righteousness.
Anyways, it all went fine until I got into lust, which as I am sure you are well aware of, is a particularly destructive sin. I began praying for the holy spirit to help me overcome it, but struggled more. I sought wisdom in the church, and the church told me to read my bible more often. I did, nothing changed. I tried having a daily quiet time, and making it as much about my relationship with god (not about the routine) as I could.
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@nugger @moomin @yockeypuck By what proof do you claim yours is any different?
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@nugger @moomin @yockeypuck I'm not trying to start something, I am curious. I personally found the christian belief of equality irreconcilable with nature and a lack of power in the name of christ, despite the claims propagated by my former church.
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@moomin @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit SORRY BUT SPIRITUAL REALITY IS NOT JUST MAKE BELIEVE FOR ME, NOR IS IT MERELY THERAPEUTIC
WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHY THE PURPLE PROSE WON'T CUT IT FOR ME
I HAVE SEEN YOU POST, I CAME UP AND ASKED YOU "IS THIS REAL TO YOU, OR A GAME OF PRETEND" AND YOU SAID EVERYTHING WAS A GAME OF PRETEND
IM NOT GONNA BELIEVE SOMEONE WHO GOES AROUND SAYING HE'S A LIAR WHO LIKES LYING TO PEOPLE
NOT EVEN IF YOU POST THE WRATH OF GNON REPERTOIRE OF CASTLES AND STATUES
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@moomin @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit IM NOT INTERESTED IN JOINING A RELIGION-THEMED ARTISTIC AND CULTURAL MOVEMENT
THAT IS SHALLOW AND FAKE, AND NO SURROGATE FOR A SPIRITUAL LIFE
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@moomin @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit I WOUND YOU TO THE HEART AND SO YOU SHRIVEL AWAY
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@nugger @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit you would stay your blade if you knew this heart that loves his people. every day I am waking you up from your slumber slowly, one snore at a time. i don't blame you, i blame the occupation tragedy that has befallen us, and the subversion and withholding of information and i will never tire of stirring those who I know can be woken up. Want to know why Paganism lost? because we could not kill our own kin. If we did we'd have lost doubly. This is the real tragedy of the entire occupation. Would you be able to destroy your own brother or your own child if they became converted in a foreign cult?
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@yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit @moomin YOCKEY YOU DO KNOW THESE NIGGERS LITERALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THE PAGAN GODS ARE REAL, THAT THEY HAVE ANY FUNCTIONAL EXISTENCE BEYOND THE HUMAN MIND AND CANNOT AFFECT THE MATERIAL EXPERIENCE OF HUMAN BEINGS.
FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW THE PAGAN GODS WERE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS AND RUDYARD KIPLING FABLES ABOUT WHY THE SUN SETS AT NIGHT
YOU AND I ARE FAR LESS CUT OFF FROM OUR PRE-CHRISTIAN ANCESTORS THAN ANY SKYRIM-ATHEIST
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@nugger @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit lying and coping again because the seethe is too much to bear. Awaken brothers :windmill_of_friendship: I'll keep stirring you from your slumber
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@moomin > Europeans would have achieved and have achieved the architecture and technology we have under ANY religion.
And yet under paganism we didn't and under gay globohomo we aren't. Curious...
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@yockeypuck @moomin >under paganism we didn’t
I shouldn’t need to remind you that the fall of Rome didn’t begin until after the conversion of the empire. But apparently you forgot about that. Did you forget about the millions of our race slaughtered in the name of christ too? Your religion ushered in the era which is literally called the dark age, attempted to crush the pursuit of knowledge because it didn’t fit your preist’s interpretation of your holy book, and the vast majority of those who managed to make advancements in our knowledge of the universe while christianity reigned over Europe would have been burned at the stake for heresey had their true beliefs become public.
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@boeswilligkeit @moomin
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@moomin @nugger @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit it seems like you just want to say you're special
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@nugger @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit i understand it is a hard truth to face, so I'll tolerate your coping and lying and keep stirring you. my poasts are not what I really believe. though I reveal glimpses every now and then if you pay attention. you're gonna have to get to know me a lot better if you want my true opinion outside of my trolling. i don't care much for being taken seriously, nor consistency (im a finnish troll after all) i care more for instilling critical thinking and presenting a Racial counterbalance. if i am able to make you seethe, then there is a far deeper fire within that needs attention. the inner world is on fire, brother. don't you smell the smoke?
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@moomin @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit >"YOU'RE LYING"
>"MY POSTS ARE NOT WHAT I REALLY BELIEVE"
YOU CAN POST ART AND WRITE PURPLE PROSE ALL YOU WANT, SCUMBAG
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@nugger @yockeypuck @boeswilligkeit long cope+lie+excuse
you're still a judeo-christian at the end.
moomin
yockeypuck
Ares :sonnenrad:
nugger
Bread up, Bro
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