@freemo @georgetakei @scott_guertin > You do you, but dont act like financially speaking it doesnt work both ways.

> Who said anything about loyalty. The equivelant of not being able to layoff people would be saying employees cant
quit. Loyalty is not expected from eithe rside.

The vast majority of people would a lot more hard-pressed to quit their job on a whim without ending-up with significant problems than their employer would be in laying them off. The power relationship is *very* strongly skewed here.

As for the earlier statement I made, it is true both for chronic work-acquired injuries and for accumulated organ-damage from stress. The perceived relaxation doesn't indicate rest remotely approaching that sufficient to compensate.

The heart itself cannot cope with all that much sleep deprivation and stress in a short period (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi). Unsustainable high-effort isn't sustainable, that's simply not how human bodies work.

That's not to say 9-5 is exactly healthy either, because it isn't.