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I see it more as an opportunity to help today's fediverse evolve (which means transforming into something that it isn't today) in ways that build on what it's best at while also addressing what it's not so good at. The discussion we had about how I see it as unleashing energy to make progress on moving instances is an example. Similarly on the consent and privacy stuff, and that's a direction the fediverse should be moving in, the focus on Meta highlights the urgency.

On "they can scrape it all anyway", I agree that's language that Meta shills use as justification for just giving it to them. But that's not how I took @smallpatatas@mstdn.patatas.ca comment. I saw it more as the opposite, acknowledging that reality and suggesting a couple of things that could be done about it. @tokyo_0@mas.to, you may well be right that they're overkill for the problem we have right now, but my view is they're good things in general for the fediverses so now's a good time to channel the energy in that direction.

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