Mrs Cloudy@Drivingforce @OliverNoble @piglet You don't seem to have any problem with the idea that democracy for Scotland is entirely in the gift of Westminster parties that we didn't vote for. They both speak about us with exactly the same dismissive tone. "Now is not the time " irrespective of how we vote because our democracy is irrelevant to their own aspirations. Democracy isn't waiting for some undefined point in the future when they decide we can have what we vote for.
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