@Humpleupagus @graf @mischievoustomato @PonyPanda @LaylaAlexandrovna

> From what I can tell, OPs position is it can't be rape if the man got hard. If so, how does she explain away many females experiencing rape orgasm?

No idea, she doesn't seem to wanna talk to people about it, but that is an interesting point. Either way, it should be obvious that anything every male does in his sleep every night is probably involuntary.

> Simply put, if the principle is that being physically aroused does not establish consent, then the same principle should apply to men.

You can't use logic on someone like that, I think.