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@theogrin I have a pet speculation that many/most of American (and likely more conservative European) cultural values are basically the emotional flotsam left over from a society that was primarily agrarian and far more spread out. In such a place and time, children were an essential aspect of survival and romanticized into "bloodlines" and such. Now the practical needs are gone, but the myth remains. See also "If you don't work, you shouldn't eat."