@Moon @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @ageha those desires are normal but the way those types handle that rejection and lack of intimacy is not.
Case example, Elliot Rodgers. We know about what we’ve read in the media, but my friend went to school with him and told me about how they tried defending him from severe bullying growing up because he was underdeveloped compared to his peers. How he handled that… well we know how it ended. Incel rage and entitlement are not normal ways to handle things. Some women are also virgins and want intimacy but it manifests in more harmless, cringey ways.