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realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:23:19 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
@ageha @icedquinn @Moon I wish I had the clip of this handy, #JordanPeterson once said that the thing about generalizations is that they are generally true

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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:23:18 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @Moon @ageha i usually find women to be annoying. there are some i know (kind of know) that are quite tolerable. i suspect, though, it's because societal pressure doesn't really demand excellence.
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:26:33 JST Sexy Moon
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  @realcaseyrollins @icedquinn @ageha i don't even know if the generalization is mostly true but its kind of funny when a person reinforces a stereotype by a group theyre trying to combat. i'm not a red pill fan it teaches you to treat women as a class as subhuman
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:29:21 JST iced depresso
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  @teratology @Moon @realcaseyrollins @ageha
  > rape culture
  they get consent. the thing is if she has no interest in ever having sex, the courtship stops and the man finds another women who is interested in him.
  
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  cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:29:22 JST cipote :bishrexual:
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  @Moon @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @ageha redpill ideology teaches that men are entitled to sex and therefore enforces rape culture among other things, of course if this treatment extended to their female siblings or relatives they might feel differently
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:31:05 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @Moon @ageha there are periods of history where if men were casually too much of an asshat, other men would remove them from the society :comfystoner: there is a lot of internal bullying and oxidizing the weak in male organizations. especially with frequent rounds of elites sending people off to get killed, or being the recipient of elites sending people to get killed, there is a bottom floor of excellence imposed on men throughout human history.
  
  women are typically spared most of the brutality of nature.
  
  this is why i say that it's not that they are incapable (which is the typical anti-women opinion) but that they simply haven't been put to gunpoint and required to do it as men have. the survivorship bias just isn't there.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:32:50 JST iced depresso
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  @teratology @Moon @realcaseyrollins @ageha :blobcathuh: why is a woman entitled to dates from a man she doesn't fit?
  
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  cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:32:52 JST cipote :bishrexual:
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  @icedquinn @Moon @realcaseyrollins @ageha they understand consent but they feel entitled to sex or affection from women in general and their hatred towards the female sex stems from that entitlement.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:36:00 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins i think you are thinking of negging which is a PUA thing.
  
  the core of TRP ideology is
  - physical fitness (so women find you physically attractive)
  - framing (stoicism, being in command of yourself, so you are unhurt further by the world and women find you mentally attractive)
  - setting clear expectations and enforcing them
  
  @Moon @teratology @ageha
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:36:01 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  they get consent.
  Don’t they beat it out of them sometimes though? Or blackmail them (i.e. “I won’t take out the garbage if you don’t give me sex” or “I’ll sleep with other women if you won’t sleep with me”)
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:38:25 JST Sexy Moon
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  @teratology @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @ageha isn't desire for intimacy innate? i don't deny that some people focus the anguish outward when they don't get it.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:40:27 JST iced depresso
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  @Moon @realcaseyrollins @teratology @ageha humans typically do desire attention and intimacy, except for the slightly broken ones.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:42:52 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @Moon @teratology @ageha there are traumatized people who have lost the ability to form or maintain relationships, and aros who simply don't have the mechanism to seek or desire romance.
  
  autisms actually still want companionship and intimacy but they are just unable to acquire it because their neural model is too foreign to society
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:42:54 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  @icedquinn @Moon @teratology @ageha The broken ones don’t?
  
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  cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:45:28 JST cipote :bishrexual:
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  @realcaseyrollins @icedquinn @Moon @ageha I don’t think there is an entire movement revolving around women expecting free dates. Men who date women for their bodies are in a transactional relationship where a woman gets financial gain out of it. It’s a two way street. A lot of women are willing to date broke men or even men that make less than they do (though many times the guys are not okay with it). Many women will support men who offer little emotional support, just so that they don’t feel alone. Or some give up their bodies to feel wanted, even without any emotional connection.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:45:28 JST iced depresso
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  @teratology @Moon @realcaseyrollins @ageha from the psych studies i've seen, women prefer men who make more than they do.
  
  they may put up with men who make less but they are on the whole not happy about it.
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:45:29 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  I don’t think any woman feels entitled to that
  You sure?
  
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  cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:45:30 JST cipote :bishrexual:
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  @icedquinn @Moon @realcaseyrollins @ageha huh wdym? I don’t think any woman feels entitled to that, it’s a mixed bag depending on regional customs. Ex/ in Korea/Japan men always feel the need to pay first.
  
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  cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:46:52 JST cipote :bishrexual:
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  @Moon @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @ageha those desires are normal but the way those types handle that rejection and lack of intimacy is not.
  Case example, Elliot Rodgers. We know about what we’ve read in the media, but my friend went to school with him and told me about how they tried defending him from severe bullying growing up because he was underdeveloped compared to his peers. How he handled that… well we know how it ended. Incel rage and entitlement are not normal ways to handle things. Some women are also virgins and want intimacy but it manifests in more harmless, cringey ways.
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:49:32 JST Sexy Moon
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  @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @teratology @ageha i don't think theres a hard separation, it used to be some of the same people.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:51:19 JST iced depresso
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  @teratology @Moon @realcaseyrollins @ageha I'm mostly surprised that they reject people like me so they can be with people who abuse them like this :cirno_shrug:
  
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  cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:51:20 JST cipote :bishrexual:
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  @icedquinn @Moon @realcaseyrollins @ageha I agree with this in the general sense, but stats on men leaving their sick partners (cancer) doesn’t look good either. I know of women who tolerate cheating men and finance their lifestyles and vehicles. I know of women basically being used for dates (free food) by guys who are emotionally unavailable just for physical intimacy (sex). You would be surprised what desperate women with low self esteem tolerate.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:54:03 JST iced depresso
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  @teratology @Moon @ageha @realcaseyrollins in my experience women would rather be with malignant narcicists and serial abusers than ASD's who love them but talk weird :ablobcatstartcrying:
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:55:33 JST Sexy Moon
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  @teratology @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @ageha > taking her to an AirBnB and lying about owning the cars and the house.
  
  *takes notes
  
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  cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:55:34 JST cipote :bishrexual:
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  @icedquinn @Moon @realcaseyrollins @ageha I had to tell my aunt she’s being used and I’m much younger than her… she is in her 30s now and getting played by grimey guys.
  I shit you not, one time I did some digging and discovered one of her flings was taking her to an AirBnB and lying about owning the cars and the house. That didn’t stop her. And she didn’t stop even after his pregnant fiance called her on his cell. Oh, and she got covid twice from him. :frothempty:
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:57:58 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @mischievoustomato @Moon @teratology @ageha i mean there is an entire PUA school that trains in abusing women under the belief a nontrivial amount of them apparently want that.
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:57:59 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @Moon @teratology @ageha It depends on how ethical you are.
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:58:00 JST Johnny Peligro
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  THIS ISNT FUCKING FAIR ARGH
  should i just learn to abuse women at this stage, then?
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:59:59 JST iced depresso
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  @mischievoustomato @Moon @realcaseyrollins @teratology @ageha who can say.
  
  the problem of demanding high quality people is ultimately that you have to know where they hide and they are significantly less in number.
  
  random street whores are easy to find, sophisticated people are not. especially as you approach 40 there is an incredibly low chance someone hasn't taken them by now unless something is horribly wrong with them.
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:00:00 JST Johnny Peligro
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  i dont think im bad enough to like betray my own morals yet
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:00:56 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @mischievoustomato @Moon @teratology @ageha there are a lot of people who just respond better to psych warfare tactics.
  
  i really prefer to schedule festivities with people, but in practice i have to nag and threaten them quite often.
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:00:57 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @Moon @teratology @ageha I think that a nontrivial amount of them do.
  Flattery is a tactic used in abuse and at the end of the day there is a large subset of women who just want to be affirmed and fawned over.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:02:52 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @mischievoustomato @Moon @teratology @ageha i think eric berne writes about that some in Games People Play. there are some women where pointless fights are part of their intimacy protocols.
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:02:53 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  @icedquinn @mischievoustomato @Moon @teratology @ageha I think the women I’ve dated, particularly the second GF, would happily take someone who wouldn’t just compliment their looks be occasionally fly off the handle, berate them, and perpetuate needless inane arguments. I complimented them and said nice things to them, but I never leaned into the abuse arena of things.
  They were kinda surprised by that and expected less.
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:02:57 JST Sexy Moon
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  @realcaseyrollins @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @teratology @ageha starting fights is the number one reason i broke up with women, i won't deal with it
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:04:34 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @Moon @ageha @mischievoustomato @teratology TRP called some of these "shit tests" where the woman intentionally treats the male poorly because she wants him to react in some specific disciplinary way, like seeing if she can control him and wanting the answer to be no.
  
  like in a fucked up way its like the wrestling fans wanting the booker to do something but not really because if the booker does what the fans say they are unhappy. (this is a real phenomenon. its fucking weird.)
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:06:00 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @mischievoustomato @Moon @teratology @ageha i have two moods
  
  :blobcatadorable: patient
  :neocat_gun: out
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:06:01 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  @mischievoustomato @icedquinn @Moon @teratology @ageha I disagree somewhat unless she’s not on her period when she’s doing that
  Women can get weird and it’s hard to tell if it’s them or hormones unless you’ve spent a great deal of time with them
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:06:02 JST Johnny Peligro
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  its dumb shit
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:09:37 JST iced depresso
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  @mischievoustomato @Moon @realcaseyrollins @teratology @ageha i had a lesbian explain this to me once (i didn't ask)
  
  they want to feel controlled but not trapped
  
  :blobcatdunno:
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 12:09:38 JST Johnny Peligro
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  i could see myself blowing up from this
  
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