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@freemo @scottsantens I used to believe this, but then the means-testing becomes a massive mess and subject to abuse. It's much much much cheaper to just give everyone a chunk and be done with it. "You a billionare? Here's your UBI. ". "You on the street? Here's your UBI"

It's not a free ride either. It's the difference between life and death for a lot of people.

And a LOT of families and friend groups have someone who's just beyond help. They just can't support them anymore due to drugs or mental issues or whatever, but feel horrible knowing they're on the street. To be able to have my idiot cousin come to me and say, "hey, I need some money to eat", and me being able to say, "Dude, you get $x.xx each month. That's enough and you need to stay the F away from me and my family".

It's either UBI (which I honestly don't think will work well enough) or public housing/food/medicine at some level where the biggest drug addicted idiot on the planet STILL won't be crapping on my front doorstep.