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@peterbrown

if you tried to get away from the binary divisions of Republicans and Democrats, your politics would become much more mature and stable.

I aassume you mean the USA, and on that I agree, having two dominate parties and framing everything against those two is a big issue with american politics.

Scandinavia is quite clearly a capitalist economy, but quite clearly operates a more socialist welfare program. They are neither socialist not capitalist. Time for some nuance

Socialism and social-welfare are very very different things. You can have high social welfare with absolutely no elements of socialism.

The best technical definitions I’ve found is something like this:

social-welfare: We help provide support for those who are most vulnerable and need it, perhaps conditionally

socialism: The means of production is publicly owned

Communism: The means of production and distribution is public owned.