@progo It seems clear that obesity isn't really just one thing, so what works and what's a problem for one person isn't going to be the same for someone else. Weight Watchers is one of those things - it works for some and not for others. (Much like Alcoholics Anonymous.) What I find really interesting here is the abandonment of the original mission, and glossing of that as some sort of *return* to the true mission which was previously misunderstood. That's part of a larger pattern.