@doctorsex @kekkerel @FourOh-LLC @SuperLutheran I'm a convert myself a lot of Roman Catholics I talk to think it so obvious that Saints pray for you that it's almost silly for anyone to question. I do think the whole concept has been kind of watered down and cargo culted into almost low tier folk superstition over the years, even though it shouldnt be that way. God isn't a vending machine, right? But at the same time, if people have faith in God and proper formation to recognize God as the source, they might have stupendously strong faith that God will use the prayers of Saint Jude to help them with their lost cause. I can't say if that's appropriate or not, but I think it's certainly better than the abandoning the faith in favor of categorically unchristian things, like occultic rituals and the like. As with Mary, you can choose to skip out on praying to saints for their intercession; I do not believe it is a requirement in the RCC and certainly not in ECC. The completely secular taxicab driver who has a large crucifix on his mirror that he uses solely as a sort of good luck charm is not doing much good, I reckon. The biggest thing with all of the saints is they were people who had deep flaws and ultimately overcame them in Christ and did great, often miraculous things in God's name. It is good to recognize them for that reason alone. Just as Christ is the asymptomate divine perfection we can strive to be like and never fully match, the saints were almost all like us at one point in their lives.