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    BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 14:22:48 JSTBowserNoodle ☦️BowserNoodle ☦️
    in reply to
    • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
    • FourOh-LLC
    • Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
    • Kek Marie Kerel
    @doctorsex @kekkerel @FourOh-LLC @SuperLutheran I appreciate the discussion on this without jumping to conclusions or accusations.
    >One key instance / only articulated a single time.
    True, but we also have Jesus seemingly telling her to not interfere with His ministry in that same story (John 2:4)

    >I find this to be far too vague to directly lead to any number of Marian beliefs.
    One thing worth noting is the NKJV translation and KJV both feel a bit weak in this verse. Neither of them put commas around "behold", which makes it unclear as to whether or not Christ is referring to the discipline or to Himself. Most of the other translations do, which makes it less ambiguous. When I first read that I actually thought it was Christ telling Mary to look at Him. Contemporary English Version (I've never even heard of that one) is :
    >When Jesus saw his mother and his favorite disciple with her, he said to his mother, "This man is now your son."


    >tragedy of Christian brother wars

    Indeed it is.
    In conversationTuesday, 28-Nov-2023 14:22:48 JST from poa.stpermalink
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