@Tony "open source" is a terrible idea.

Depending on who you ask, it's either about openly available information useful for intelligence research, intentional or not, illegal or illegal ("open source intelligence"), for sucking up to proprietary software companies so they fund a development model, the 10 requirements of the "open source definition"; https://opensource.org/osd (yes, there's proprietary JavaScript on that page) or merely about "participatory" arrangements full of buzzwords - as a result, no "open source" supporter I've met can define it and people assume it means "source-available" regardless.

The issue is compounded by how the biggest "poster child" of "open source", Linux, isn't even source available, as it contains proprietary software, without source code!

I demand the original and the best, which is free software; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#four-freedoms

>open source has down sides though. It allows for easy of access to large amounts of data. Which trump was claiming was bad.
Any software, when run and provided amounts of data has exactly that, so I don't see why "open source" is any different to proprietary software in that case.

Free software of course serves the user and so doesn't send any information to any company, Chinese or not, unless instructed to.

That executive order seems to be about proprietary chinese spyware that is running on a bunch of computers and also Internet Of Stings devices, rather than about source code.

Those IoS devices usually don't even run much, if any "open source software", as the OS they usually run is BusyBox+Linux (neither of which are "open source", arbitrary 3rd party certifications notwithstanding) and custom proprietary software to implement an interface and the spying, so the OS such IoS devices run is mostly irrelevant.