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   Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 17:35:28 JST Mr. Bacon
   I'm on the fence about whether or not open source software is a good idea.
   
   I read trumps thing about it; though I understand the concerns with "Chinese" software and hardware, this is now the way of the world. WTF do you think google is doing?
   
   All these types of laws do, is stop the American people from keeping up with global technology. And this is bad.
   
   https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-addressing-threat-posed-applications-software-developed-controlled-chinese-companies/
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 17:35:27 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Counterpoint: Open source allows developers to review the base for malicious code.
     
     https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/30/22410164/linux-kernel-university-of-minnesota-banned-open-source
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 17:42:49 JST Mr. Bacon

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     Linux got butt hurt because they were tricked lol.
     
     But, that seems like a much more secure route than letting a government decide.
     
     The down side of that system is tranny Jannies. Being good with software also comes with being terminally online...
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 17:47:45 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Seriously. I just set up my tablet to use vnc over usb using adb shell, so it could be a second monitor for a laptop. The laptop uses a Radeon gpu, so I couldn't use a virtual display. I had to get x11 to draw to the unused hdmi out. Then I wrote a script so I can just run it whenever I need that second monitor..
     
     I also shitposted all day. 🤷♂️
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 17:56:44 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Shitposting ain't easy.
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 17:56:45 JST Mr. Bacon

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     That's so much work lol.
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 17:57:31 JST Mr. Bacon

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     open source has down sides though. It allows for easy of access to large amounts of data. Which trump was claiming was bad.
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     Martti (mar77i@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 17:57:32 JST Martti

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     @Humpleupagus @Tony > If a sufficiently motivated, unscrupulous person can put themselves into a trusted position of updating critical software, there’s honestly little that can be done to stop them
     
     Well du-uh, since that's also true for any closed source setting...
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 18:00:09 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     The upside is not windows.
     
     I'm also impressed with what FOSS has accomplished. Short of marketing, it's stayed competitive with, and is in many ways superior to, globohomoware when you look at use cases.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 18:01:20 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 18:01:21 JST Mr. Bacon

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     Up your game
     
     Go full mono key
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 18:02:00 JST Mr. Bacon

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     • Martti
     I've been using proton.me for a lot of things and it's head and shoulders above google for business applications. It has a fully functional drive. Plus additional security and encryption layers.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 18:12:31 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Martti
     My daily use case is basically for an office suite. With ancient tools like grep, awk, and sed, plus a bit of scripting, I've been able to automate a lot of tasks.
     
     I have scripts that do everything from converting odts etc to pdf while watermarking them and adding dates etc to the file names for delivery to clients, to scripts that can produce client documents from a csv file containing client information. I also have a cron tasks that finds new files each night and converts them to a hidden text file (with a custom extension to differentiate them from regular txt files), so I can quickly grep my entire file system.
     
     I also have a script that unzips odt files and edits the xml data and then repackages them, so I don't have to open 10 documents in writer when there's a bunch of documents that need the same edit.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 18:24:43 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     It is. The funniest one is a script that uses xdotool to enter billing data into quickbooks through anydesk. QB won't let users cut and paste into some areas of their suite, so I found an equivalent method. It saves my wife the 6+ hours a month it takes to type it all in. The script types it for her.
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 18:24:44 JST Mr. Bacon

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     That actually sounds super useful. Like an assistant or two
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 18:55:56 JST 翠星石

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     @Tony "open source" is a terrible idea.
     
     Depending on who you ask, it's either about openly available information useful for intelligence research, intentional or not, illegal or illegal ("open source intelligence"), for sucking up to proprietary software companies so they fund a development model, the 10 requirements of the "open source definition"; https://opensource.org/osd (yes, there's proprietary JavaScript on that page) or merely about "participatory" arrangements full of buzzwords - as a result, no "open source" supporter I've met can define it and people assume it means "source-available" regardless.
     
     The issue is compounded by how the biggest "poster child" of "open source", Linux, isn't even source available, as it contains proprietary software, without source code!
     
     I demand the original and the best, which is free software; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#four-freedoms
     
     >open source has down sides though. It allows for easy of access to large amounts of data. Which trump was claiming was bad.
     Any software, when run and provided amounts of data has exactly that, so I don't see why "open source" is any different to proprietary software in that case.
     
     Free software of course serves the user and so doesn't send any information to any company, Chinese or not, unless instructed to.
     
     That executive order seems to be about proprietary chinese spyware that is running on a bunch of computers and also Internet Of Stings devices, rather than about source code.
     
     Those IoS devices usually don't even run much, if any "open source software", as the OS they usually run is BusyBox+Linux (neither of which are "open source", arbitrary 3rd party certifications notwithstanding) and custom proprietary software to implement an interface and the spying, so the OS such IoS devices run is mostly irrelevant.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 19:01:59 JST 翠星石

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     @Humpleupagus "FOSS" has accomplished nothing useful, but it is achieving it's goal - the goal of confusing people of the difference between free software and "open source" by making it out that they're the same and to make people think that all the free software that has been written by based GNU developers and users hellbent on freedom, was only written so the software would be gratis and source-available.
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 19:16:50 JST Mr. Bacon

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     Interesting, I didn't know there was a difference.
     
     free software sounds good to me. I want to do with the software as I please.
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