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@nothingfuture @tk @cycling @mastobikes I think the opposite is true; that the problems with disk brakes are mostly of concern to people riding in pelotons - which are I think reasonable, the whole "adding spining pieces of sharp metal to a pile-up is bad" argument is pretty compelling - but that for almost everyone else, disc brakes are purely better.

Hopefully though "these brake are subtly better under these conditions" is an in-extremis question for everyone and all brakes are fine.