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   Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 01:06:45 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

   Whether or not disc brakes are “better” than rim brakes, disc brakes definitely require less skill to use effectively in more conditions.

   #cycling #bicycle #mastobikes #biketooter @cycling @mastobikes

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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 01:11:49 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     I'm of the type who would rather learn the skill. Other examples pertaining to me: friction shifting on bicycles, two wheels instead of four, and manual transmissions in cars and motorcycles.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 01:40:41 JST feld

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     @tk @cycling @mastobikes this article makes me sad
     
     https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/opinion/disc-brakes-took-over-the-cycling-world-heres-why-that-was-a-mistake/
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     Kevin B (keraba@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 02:01:47 JST Kevin B

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     @tk "disc brakes ... require less skill"

     I couldn't disagree more. Rim brakes are just big disc brakes. But I guess I lost that argument long ago. Time to drink the Kool-Aid.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 03:16:45 JST feld

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     @ssamulczyk @cycling @mastobikes
     
     > Disc brakes and DB wheels ale less affected by the rain and mud.
     
     that's interesting because almost everyone I've talked to has said that disc brakes are WORSE in rain. I've barely had time with disc brakes on a road bike so I can't compare.
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     Sebastian :coffefied: (ssamulczyk@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 03:16:47 JST Sebastian :coffefied:

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     @feld Well, IMO this article is just biased. My wallet cried every time cork pads bit into the carbon rim. I have a set of aluminium wheels not fit for riding after just 3 winters due to the brake wear… Disc brakes and DB wheels ale less affected by the rain and mud. Never gonna buy rim brake bicycle again… @tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com @cycling @mastobikes

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     nothingfuture (nothingfuture@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 03:47:12 JST nothingfuture

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     @tk @cycling @mastobikes I’ll concede that there are applications where disc brakes-specifically hydraulic- are better than rim brakes. But those situations are, I think, wildly overstated, and usually far outside the use-cases of the vast majority of cyclists. #biketooter

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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 04:06:11 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @feld @cycling @mastobikes @ssamulczyk disc brakes are worse in rain...... compared to drum brakes which are never used on bicycles but are (were) used in motorcycles. Compared to rim brakes they are more lore less the same in theory.
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     Râu Cao ⚡ (raucao@kosmos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 04:17:08 JST Râu Cao ⚡

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     @tk @cycling @mastobikes They also require more skills, tools, and materials to maintain and repair.

     Aside from that, a decent rim brake on an aluminium brake track has never failed me before, even in the worst conditions. And it pains me having to listen to the noise of wet or overheating discs on other people's bikes around me.

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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 04:17:40 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @raucao Hydraulic brakes are the real maintenance pain in the ass, irrespective of rim or hub brakes.
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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 04:22:31 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     Disc brakes will never look this good. :blobfoxowomlem:
     
     #cycling #bicycle #mastobikes #biketooter @cycling @mastobikes
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     Dr. hc.* Grober Unfug (groberunfug2@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 06:27:33 JST Dr. hc.* Grober Unfug

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     @feld @cycling @mastobikes @tk i like it, even laughed at some points. It's a good Hot take tuesday article.

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     mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 07:33:49 JST mhoye

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     @nothingfuture @tk @cycling @mastobikes I think the opposite is true; that the problems with disk brakes are mostly of concern to people riding in pelotons - which are I think reasonable, the whole "adding spining pieces of sharp metal to a pile-up is bad" argument is pretty compelling - but that for almost everyone else, disc brakes are purely better.

     Hopefully though "these brake are subtly better under these conditions" is an in-extremis question for everyone and all brakes are fine.

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     nothingfuture (nothingfuture@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 07:33:49 JST nothingfuture

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     @mhoye @tk @cycling @mastobikes
     I came up riding tandems with sketchy canti brakes in hills, and- it was ok? We adjusted our riding to braking power.
     On a road bike, I’ve never felt I needed discs. And I rode canti’s on mtbs all through the 80’s/90’s and into the early 00’s. They were fine. Until you were riding DH courses.
     Are discs better? Sure. Good hydro discs have immense amounts of power. Were rim brakes enough? Yeah. Most of the time. #BikeTooter

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     nothingfuture (nothingfuture@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 07:33:53 JST nothingfuture

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     @v_perjorative @tk @cycling @mastobikes To be clear- I’m not saying discs are bad or whatever. I’m saying that most of the time, for many, many people, they’re overkill.
     Some people seem to feel that discs are necessary for a bike to be safe; that is very rarely the actual case. #BikeTooter

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     Sam H (he/him) (v_perjorative@mastodon.org.uk)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 07:33:58 JST Sam H (he/him)

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     @nothingfuture @tk @cycling @mastobikes as an overweight all-weather bike commuter living in a hilly area, I'm definitely a convert to disk brakes.

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     Twobiscuits :graz: (twobiscuits@graz.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 07:42:27 JST Twobiscuits :graz:

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     @nothingfuture @mhoye @tk @cycling @mastobikes I've never really felt limited by my canti and centrepull brakes. V-brakes tend to be too grabby for my taste.

     Adjusting the cantis I found that there's such a thing as too much and too little mechanical advantage. And in between, there's a sweet spot. Discs apparently have much more mechanical advantage, at the cost of having a tiny range of travel of the pads. Which makes them tricky to adjust, in their own way. >

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     Twobiscuits :graz: (twobiscuits@graz.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 07:58:31 JST Twobiscuits :graz:

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     @nothingfuture @mhoye @tk @cycling @mastobikes What limits me eg from going faster on descents is not a lack of braking power but hesitating to put myself in situations where I'd have to brake hard. How I'm sitting on the bike & how much I'm at one with steering it and finding the right line has more potential for improvement, I think.

     If it was really long descents or really really long rides, I guess discs would make it easier on my hands. <>

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 01:06:40 JST SuperDicq

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     @tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com @cycling@a.gup.pe @mastobikes@a.gup.pe Aren't caliper brakes always better?
     
     They basically use the entire wheel as a brake disk. And the bigger the diameter, the less force you need to brake properly. And you don't need an additional brake disk which saves weight and cost.

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