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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/111342566946755633">Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 17:26:33 JST</a><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus" title="jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/175590-48-20230921135917.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="Jenniferplusplus" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Jenniferplusplus</a><div><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna/111339196766113846" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a><ul><li><li><a href="https://gnusocial.jp/user/105361" title="hrefna@hachyderm.io">Hrefna (DHC)</a></li><li><a href="https://gnusocial.jp/user/106294" title="maegul@hachyderm.io">maegul</a></li></ul></div></section><article><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna">@hrefna</a><br>I feel like people don't really grasp how long the ramp up is, and how completely impossible it is to implement federation incrementally. Maybe a visual will help some people?</p><p>I've been at this for 4 months, and only just now approaching the "federated" starting line when I can work on app features instead of activity pub &amp; friends.</p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@maegul">@maegul</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/@tchambers">@tchambers</a></p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/2272876#notice-4481169">In conversation</a><time datetime="2023-11-03T17:26:33+09:00" title="Friday, 03-Nov-2023 17:26:33 JST">about a year ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/111342566946755633" rel="external" title="Sent from hachyderm.io via ActivityPub">hachyderm.io</a></span></span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/111342566946755633">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/1759309">A Mermaid diagram timelinetimeline
    title Zero to Federated
    ActivityStreams Types       : Serialize : Deserialize : Polymorphic Types : No schemas
    ActivityPub API             : Actors : Objects : Inbox : Outbox
    ActivityPub GET             : Depends on ActivityStreams Types
    Persistance Layer           : Unique IDs -&gt; absolute HTTP(s) URIs : Store &amp; retrieve AP documents
    Webfinger API               : Depends on Persistance : Strictly required for Mastodon interop : Helpful for everyone else : Retrieve AP Actors, at least
    ActivityStreams, Advanced   : Extensions : W3ID sec vocabulary
    Federated Authentication    : Store &amp; retrieve signing keys : Depends on ActivityStreams, Advanced : Depends on Persistance : Http-signatures : But, like, 20 draft revisions old
    ActivityPub POST            : Depends on everything else : You can finally start testing
    Your App                    : Basic features : User management : Your unique features : All the things you started the project to do</a></label><br><a href="https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/111/342/546/179/105/411/original/63974da7f66ddfd4.png" rel="external">https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/111/342/546/179/105/411/original/63974da7f66ddfd4.png</a></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 17:26:33 JSTJenniferplusplus
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I feel like people don't really grasp how long the ramp up is, and how completely impossible it is to implement federation incrementally. Maybe a visual will help some people?
I've been at this for 4 months, and only just now approaching the "federated" starting line when I can work on app features instead of activity pub & friends.
@maegul @tchambers
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1. A Mermaid diagram timeline timeline title Zero to Federated ActivityStreams Types : Serialize : Deserialize : Polymorphic Types : No schemas ActivityPub API : Actors : Objects : Inbox : Outbox ActivityPub GET : Depends on ActivityStreams Types Persistance Layer : Unique IDs -> absolute HTTP(s) URIs : Store & retrieve AP documents Webfinger API : Depends on Persistance : Strictly required for Mastodon interop : Helpful for everyone else : Retrieve AP Actors, at least ActivityStreams, Advanced : Extensions : W3ID sec vocabulary Federated Authentication : Store & retrieve signing keys : Depends on ActivityStreams, Advanced : Depends on Persistance : Http-signatures : But, like, 20 draft revisions old ActivityPub POST : Depends on everything else : You can finally start testing Your App : Basic features : User management : Your unique features : All the things you started the project to do
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