@tk The semiautomatics are *amazing* though. You still need to know how a manual works to have a feel for when the truck is going to be on the clutch (locking out the throttle) if you don't want the sensation the truck is just doing what the truck wants, and they won't creep. Except for clutch lifts, you really have to use the accelerator like you would in a manual or it won't drive the way you expect.