@BowsacNoodle @binkle @Wormwood @MasterSimper theyre their own branch of basal east eurasian and break off from papuans est. 20000+ years ago.

theyre related to papuans and onge but theyve come out far worse.

some asians doing alt genetics(they also did alt phylogenies for the haplogroups) claimed they were most related to neaderthals for some reasons, it superficially seems true but theyve got the worst combination and are clearly very degenerated, also evidenced by their extreme anti genitive practices