@wolf480pl @novenary @lanodan yeah we may need something like an immutable base system and then some kind of nix/guix thing on top of that, though that's still bodging around the problem pretty hard.

flatpak tries to address the same issue--but runs in to a big stupid in that without an LTS there is no stability there either. every program requires its own gnome install :ablobcateyeroll:

well, elementaryos fixes that. they use flatpak with their own base images. so they are forcibly stabilizing it, but they do that for themselves.