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> non dark fedi servers would block other non dark fedi servers if they had lots of trolls and refused to do anything about them,

We can just call Mastodon white-fedi.

But no, this is inaccurate. You are giving them credit based on some completely unwarranted assumptions of good faith. FSE made an attempt way back to work with them. We got blocks with no reports, we get blocks based on lies and speculation and rumors, I gave up on caring what those people thought. FSE never allowed loli hentai, we got blocks due to people claiming we did when we had a single-digit number of users. We still have that: "lolicon" is cited as one of the reasons we're blocked by puntarella.party, for instance. All kinds of things that were prohibited here got us blocks elsewhere. Some of the reasons given at https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=freespeechextremist.com are accurate (FSE does not ban people for "ableism"), some are technically accurate but misleading (it is true but misleading to say that we do not ban people for being far-right, but FSE also does not ban anyone for being far-left), and a large part of it is actual lies ("harassment instance", "harmful interpretation of free speech includes tormenting others", etc.).

> refused to do anything about them,

This part is especially galling. FSE got instance-blocked by knzk.me on the word of someone that prodded a couple of people from FSE on a regular basis, got an in-kind response. Because I never got reports from these people and only found out there was a problem after the block, I went out of my way and said "Hey, are these people creating a problem?" to the person in question, who said "No, not harassment, just bantering" and this person took screenshots of only the replies (that is, out of context, without the provocations) to the knzk.me admin and said "Look how they've harassed me! The admin won't do anything!" So way past "making shit up" or "blocking before trying to resolve the problem", there were people making plans to stage things to get us blocked, even in the absence of problems. I can dig up all of the old screenshots, but you keep parroting things you heard and you don't appear to read what I'm writing: people have persistently lied about FSE and about me personally in order to get FSE blocked, and this is entirely due to politics. Or look at that sunbeam.city horseshit: it started with "this guy wants to be a mod, we have to vet him" to "this guy is a friend and colleague of the guy that runs FSE" to "the FSE guy doesn't ban fascists and must be a fascist and thus this guy that he's friends with must also be a fascist, despite ostensibly being a life-long leftist and DSA coalition supporter and Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer", after which it went all the way off the goddamn rails and they were claiming I threatened to murder them.

Your Pollyanna "I'd like it if people could all talk...they'd talk to you if there was no harassment!" view is so far off the mark that it'd take you a week just to read through the screenshots. FSE has not blocked them, they have blocked FSE. I have been proactive about preventing actual problems like harassment. And here you are, proving that the Goebbels approach works, because the lie has been repeated at you often enough that you just sort of casually toss it out like it's some kind of accepted fact. You don't ask, you just repeat it, and then you scold us and tell us to stop it and that the "by any means necessary" people that have spent years lying about people outside their politically oriented clique would be glad to talk to us otherwise. They wouldn't, they won't, and it's got nothing to do with anything I have done or failed to do.

Very soon after that nonsense started, I stopped giving a shit. They want to dictate: they do not want to cooperate, they do not want a dialog, they do not want to come together and hold hands and sing, there is nothing that I *could* do to change their minds even if I wanted to. Someone comes to me with a problem, I try to fix the problem, but they'd rather build the wall, and good goddamn riddance. The only real problem is the lying, but there's not a lot I can do about that, either.